What’s your ultimate Vision with Yac, and how do you think about the space differently than your competitors?
Yac is going to be the way that you collaborate and get work done. Yac does not make you feel obligated to respond to somebody immediately or take up and monopolize your time like a Zoom or phone call.
A lot of our competitors emphasize synchronous real-time audio and video. That’s fine for social, but for work, nobody operates that way. People realize that Zoom and Clubhouse fatigue are real, and they’re tired of it.
Yac will be how people get work done because it’s on their own time. It’s incredibly inclusive of remote and global teams all over the world. Asynchronous is going to win long term because it’s the natural progression for what people actually want.
Longer-term, our vision for the company is actually fascinating. We love to talk about how AirPods have sold more than some countries’ populations. In 5 to 10 years, we’ll be collaborating in a way that doesn’t require us to have a physical interface in front of us. You may not even have a physical phone or computer. It will all be taking place either in AR or in your ears. That’s the future we’re building towards.
What has your journey so far looked like, and what are you focusing on for the next six months?
Our story is actually nuts. We submitted the initial version of Yac to Producthunt’s Makers Festival and ended up accruing a massive waitlist. We got our initial investment because Aidan Wolf of Doodle Lense, a Yac user at the time, mentioned Adam Draper on Twitter. We got on a call, and he immediately said, “Hey, I want to fund this thing.”
For the next six months, we are heads down on growth, sales, and marketing. Everybody who’s on Yac today loves the platform. We’re trying to replicate that for everybody across the world and remove pointless meetings from their life.
One great piece of advice for community building is to be super authentic and genuine when talking to people. Don’t try to over-optimize human relationships. Those should be kept pure and genuine.
What something you’ve learned that you wish you knew starting Yac?
The one thing that I wish I learned is understanding that fundraising really is hard. You’re inherently going to get more “no"s to "yes"s when fundraising. That doesn’t mean your product sucks, but getting "no"s is a part of the game.
The other thing that I wish I knew is just how critical the non-glamorous stuff is. Making sure taxes, finances, data rooms, and stuff is lined up before getting any funding. That’s just as important as the stuff that everybody likes to talk about.
Who is someone you looked up to growing up, and who inspires you now?
Someone that I look up to as the founder is Jack Dorsey. I really love how transparent and honest he is. He’s so down to earth, and I really appreciate that. I am really excited about 1v1Me, a gaming company, Fluent, a language learning company, Hype, a social marketplace, and OKO.
My buddy Garrett at Pipedream Labs is basically building the Boring Company for small parcels. Right now, if you need paper towels at your house, we order them on Prime and get them the next day. What he’s trying to do is make 30 second or 30 minute delivery. It’s a moonshot, but he’s actually pulling it off.
I am also very excited about one of my friends, KP, who has a venture fund called Bloom VP. Really stoked about what they’re doing